....one other thing that was apparent to me was the audaciously paint jobs on the outside of the coach seem to be there only to make up for the lack of designed in space...as issue that you and I share Camping Dutchman......I don't know what happened to their design team but they must have been let go or something.....outside grill was good for 2 at the most but other than that was a waste of money if any larger family involved in Rv'ing.....human waste is still an issue that can be solved by electric evaporative toilet-once you get used to it you will never go back to "old stinky".....conversions are taking a back seat to bus type motor homes and that sort of thing....must be an RVMA issue....shame, people are missing the boat when they get away from Class 8 tractors with trailers.......or conversion truck chassis.....geofkaye
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