Snowman8.....you will be real sorry if you do business Zeigler-he is shade tree and slips titles....ask some of the others on the Escapees about his dealings....he isn't a dealer or expert-just presents himself as one....spit and polish artist with a rattle can.....don't give up your money to him-you have been warned!....several others would like to meet up with him as well as I-though I lucked out and checked his background through the State of Kansas and Mo. -also the Automobile Dealers Association in both states-ALSO THE BBB-they are interested in him along along with the FED/State Tax People because of the info I and others gave them.........geofkaye