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OK folks for those keeping score: Plan #1 Unbolt-the-axle-slide-it-up-then-whack-the-frame: 2 Plan #2 Hack-frame-in-2(actually 3)-reweld-w/o-extra-pcs: 0 Kinda lop-sided so far Gary (who's having waaaay too much fun this late @ nite)

I would think (and numerous truck folks seem to agree) that your second method of sliding everything forward then chopping off the rear would be more sound, only because you would still have your framerails uncut or modified (except for a few extra holes, which are NOT a concern here). No matter...

If there is a truck conversion mag around, I have neither seen nor heard anything about it, and I've been looking; REALLY looking! So I have a feeling such an aminal doth not exist. Too bad, 'cuz I think it would be a mover. Oh well, maybe someday.....

All that frame, engine, radiator, hood, etc. will absorb a heck of a lot of energy that YOU would absorb if you were in front of most of that stuff. It's only logical. Sure, the amount of energy absorbed by all that equipment might be limited compared to what is passed on back, but that is WAY...

I have since checked the Donvel site; it is a different product than Brock's. The Donvel setup acts more to stabilize than to soften the ride like Brock's does. On Brock's setup the rear of the front spring is disconnected and an airspring is installed between the rear of the spring and the...

You can; I don't know if you saw the "gallery" of pix (see his above post), but each can be enlarged just by clicking on it. I get the gallery by clicking on the topic "geddyupgo" in the index. Maybe your 'puter is configured different....

Is this Donvel's own kit or are they selling the Brock's "Add a Ride" kit? Sounds like a good deal either way; I'm just curious as to whether there was another player in the front air-ride market besides Brock's.

The best part of this deal for me? This guy is LOCAL! Well, to me at least. Probably wouldn't hurt to call and at least see what these guys can do..... One never knows until one asks, and asking is free, at least so far.....

Me? Picking on anybody? C'monnnnn! I was just making a little, how you say, linguistic commentary..... Yeah, that's the ticket! (Some one send the paramedix to the Kaye residence; he's having breathing difficulties again.....)

Which is why we ALSO use "curb" weight; we just spell it differently......

Hooooboy! Try squeezing a 500HP Series 60 into the tail of THAT puppy! I think I'll pass....

NO, you do not. (Was this a serious question?)

Naw, he means Randy Butler(let's not get him TEED off now.....)

Hey Fastlap! I would LOVE to see some pictures of your conversion, as it sounds like it would be VERY similar to what I would do, except I would not build above the sleeper(personal tastes, etc). Keep us all posted on progress, as I'm sure I'm not the only one whose curiosity is piqued! Gary

Somebody's idea of an uplifting experience? Hope he gets bounced outta town!

I take it winter takes on its full meaning up there.....

After watching these guys, violence on the tube can't be thought of as a bad thing........(not that I ever thought it was......)

Thank you Anthony, I did not realize this was your livelihood! I do appreciate the other numbers you gave, and will say that it appears to be a decent coach for the money

Nice unit! Would it be rude to ask about how much it cost to build, not counting cost of the truck? It looks pretty close to what I might want, except I would prefer the drive axle a bit more forward for better maneuverability. I would put air-ride (probably Brock's Ad-A-Ride) on the front, so...

Aaaahhhhhh, the benefits of that bitchin' combo of waaay too much power (which, by the way, is NEVER quite enough) and nice, long-legged gearing; such are some of the makin's of the good life....... Gary

Probably has a 10' x 10' sign nearby that says- Touch it and DIE!!! Plus keeps it covered with a giant tarp whenever it's not being photographed. Can't explain lack of bug splatters though; unless he has about 10 coats of wax on it and wipes it down CONSTANTLY.......

My thoughts EXACTLY! Once in a while I find myself looking at what might be a "good deal" on a MD truck for my future rig, then realize that for the same, or LESS, money I could get a Class 8 with ALL the above-mentioned advantages. What a reality check! It ALWAYS comes back to the obvious...

Hey, uh, like, who IS IRV2., anyway? Some site any one of us is supposed to give a s--- about? Carry on, y'all......

Those WERE the days, huh?

Lotta good thinking there, 'Rail! Now let me see if I got those acronyms straight: HD= Heavy Duty (easy one) DP= Diesel Pusher (or Puller; hey, it can happen!) TV= Boob tu-oops! I mean Tow Vehicle! There. Did I get 'em all right? What's my score on this one?