Outside Skin

RBlack · 08-25-2005, 01:19 AM

I see most everyone using Alum. for their outside skin. What are the advantages? Why not FRP on Luan paneling? Also, where can you get Alum and prefab corners etc.? Rich

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-25-2005, 10:04 PM

Luan is too soft and will not weather at all.....FRP is a good choice for smooth sides but is very hard to patch or replace-water between layers will cause a buldge.....aluminum takes a heat gun or a screw gun and a little help to replace-tape unloosens with enough heat.....sometimes..... sometimes CO2 will freeze it and it will crack off so to speak.....geofkaye

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-25-2005, 10:07 PM

.....corners are available at aluminum extruders near trailer manufactures.....In Elkart IND.they were selling exterior pieces for the same price as scrap.....same as beer cans....geofkaye

RBlack · 08-26-2005, 06:52 AM

Saw a Haulmark coach in Salt Lake City yesterday, what a beauty!!! Probably the only Manf. coach in Utah. It had Alum. skin and was very smooth and very stiff. Is it directly mounted on to the steel fram with the 3M mounting tape or is it back with something? Rich

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-26-2005, 10:57 PM

....if it is .060 aluminum it is pretty stiff stuff and if it is glued instead of screwed it will move some -but not alot....'specially in the sun.....some back it up with a layer of wood to minumize the stretch marks but I don't think much of that idea....still waves on hot days.....My trailer had waves from the pressure of the foam expanding-holding the insulation panels in place and to make an airtight seal.......still there after a year....not as important to me as the insualltion value in hot weather and cold weather.....geofkaye

spooner · 08-27-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RBlack:
Saw a Haulmark coach in Salt Lake City yesterday, what a beauty!!! Probably the only Manf. coach in Utah. It had Alum. skin and was very smooth and very stiff. Is it directly mounted on to the steel fram with the 3M mounting tape or is it back with something? Rich

RBlack
on our Pete we plan to use .095" aluminum sheets bonded to the steel structure with UHB 3M tape.
the bare aluminum sheets will be powdercoated after "dry" fitting them to the steel structure and doing all the needed cutouts and drilling.
for a strong bond the steel has to be perfect clean: freshly sanded and cleaned with 3M surface prep cleaner.
the 3M is very expensive (good thing our toter is only 12.5' long

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RBlack · 08-28-2005, 06:37 PM

Thanks for all the help. My truck goes in for the frame stretch next week, then maybe I can post some pics. Where is the best place to buy the Aluminum skin? I know all these places ALUMINUM SIDING
Discount Aluminum
1461 Seminola Blvd.
Casselberry, FL
407-695-2555, http://www.discount-aluminum.com

Interstate Metal Fabricators, Inc
13509 Johnson Road
Milwaukie, OR 97222
800-587-3463 or 503-786-8860, http://www.interstatemetals.com

The Metal Company
5509 Harlan St.
Arvada, CO
800-231 0401 or 303-423-4425, http://www.themetalcompany.com - Good site.

National R.V. Siding Ltd.
16112 - 114 Ave.
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
1 888-443-4041 http://www.rvsiding.com Good site.

Where do you recommend?

Rich Black

spooner · 08-29-2005, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RBlack:
Thanks for all the help. My truck goes in for the frame stretch next week, then maybe I can post some pics. Where is the best place to buy the Aluminum skin? I know all these places ALUMINUM SIDING
Discount Aluminum
1461 Seminola Blvd.
Casselberry, FL
407-695-2555, http://www.discount-aluminum.com

Interstate Metal Fabricators, Inc
13509 Johnson Road
Milwaukie, OR 97222
800-587-3463 or 503-786-8860, http://www.interstatemetals.com

The Metal Company
5509 Harlan St.
Arvada, CO
800-231 0401 or 303-423-4425, http://www.themetalcompany.com - Good site.

National R.V. Siding Ltd.
16112 - 114 Ave.
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
1 888-443-4041 http://www.rvsiding.com Good site.

Where do you recommend?

Rich Black

where are you located?
are you looking for raw aluminum sheets or pre-powdercoated trailer siding sheets?

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-29-2005, 01:33 AM

....wait till you get the price Monday....how's your heart?....have insurance?....get ready to change your pants!....geofkaye

RBlack · 08-29-2005, 07:42 PM

Geof Are you refering to the skin or the frame stretch? I'm located near Salt Lake City. I would probably prefer pre-painted stuff. I'm checking with some local metal guys and trailer dealers. Rich

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-29-2005, 10:59 PM

....skin....aluminum is expensive right now.....need more beer cans to recycle

geofkaye

Gary Atsma · 08-30-2005, 02:28 PM

Sounds like buying the skin, might get ya skinned!
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Gary

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-30-2005, 02:45 PM

....did you "open one" early today? If I didn't have to work tonight I have ''one'' with you....but you know how it is......geofkaye

Gary Atsma · 08-30-2005, 06:11 PM

Naw, came home early to clean up to go to the Dr. for a checkup. And while I was at it, well, you know the rest........

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-30-2005, 11:29 PM

.....Oh My!.....geofkaye

Gary Atsma · 08-31-2005, 04:55 PM

Uhhh, it wasn't THAT either. I just assumed you knew I meant that I got online to check this board out.
Note to self- NEVER "assume". Was taught a loooong time ago to break up the word, 'cause it WILL make an "A--" outta "U" and "ME"

KAYE RIVERCITY · 08-31-2005, 11:36 PM

....just make sure there is only one hand on your shoulder.....geofkaye

Travis Q · 10-18-2005, 09:40 PM

I used .053 aluminum prepainted from Wrisco on our coach, and it worked well....I used the 3M VHB tape to attach it to the truck. WOW. The stuff is strong! I found that as long as you don't apply any pressure when you hang the aluminum up on the taped wall studs, you can reposition it if you are gentle. After it's where you want it, roll it with a stiff paint roller and it's stuck FOR GOOD. One other very important hint...do not use mineral spirits or laquer thinner to clean the metal off with. I called 3M and they told me to get the metal good and clean (mine already was), and then before you stick the tape on the studs, do a final prep with rubbing alcohol. Worked flawlessly!! I did mine when it was cold outside, so I heated the panels up under a heater as I put them up. Also be sure that any welds you have on the outside of the box frame are ground smooth. I had a couple that weren't, and I had to go back and redo.

Travis

KAYE RIVERCITY · 10-18-2005, 11:00 PM

....I wouldn't use rubbbing alcohol because of the moisture attraction Get Denatured ALcohol in a can that is sealed and use that....evaporates easly/very quick........there is a new product instead of 3M VHB made by Moasanto? I believe I have to find the sample....it's a LOT cheaper than 3M and reacts well with heatguns.....geofkaye

blkgld · 01-17-2006, 02:54 PM

Hi guys, This is the first time posting for me, so beware of my ignorance.Why not weld 14ga steel sheet to the frame? I do not like the idea of taping on panels.Nor do i like the idea of alum and steel rubbing together.
Thanks Mark

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