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04-19-2010, 07:44 AM
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As most of you know, the Freightliners are rather noisy, so as a PhD in acoustics, you know it has driven me nuts. I have a new acoustics manufacture that does vehicle dampening as well. If anyone is interested, I will log the progress as well as the good and the bad. So far all I have done is take the interior out of the cab. The dash is next. I am installing three different types of acoustic dampeners.
1) sound barrier on the floor and fire wall
2) vibration dampeners on the doors
3) sound absorption inside of the dash
I'll post some pictures if it all works. My company does acoustic control for buildings, so this is kind of new to me.
Doc Weaver
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04-19-2010, 07:58 AM
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Souns Dyn-O-Mat!
oops I mean Dyn-O-Mite!
if you roll on dyno-mat, just wash all the steel down real good with soap and water, then a quick wipe with rubbing alcohol, and the surface is reay to roll on the dynomat. you should use a small 1" roller to press it into all the grooves and corners. We put 2 layers on the floor of my GMC 6500. and 1 layer on the door panels. it took 2 guys 4-5 hours to roll it all down.
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04-19-2010, 11:25 AM
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According to the numbers, the products I am using have almost twice the dampening power of Dynamat. Dynamat is, for the most part, a vibration dampener. I am using three different types of product from the same company. This company has been used on the Trick My Truck show.
This is the first time I have used this company, but from the discussions I have had with the head designers, they know acoustics and they know their product. We shall soon see.
Doc Weaver
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04-19-2010, 06:34 PM
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Sounds cool to me. I put a nice am/fm/cd player in my cab. Then I wired in two headphone jacks. I wear some nice Sony headphones with the leather/foam earcups that are good about sealing against my fat head and sealing out cab noise. Works great for listening to MPR while cruising. I've got tinted side windows in the cab and I sit back in the seat. So, if I spot a cop car I think I can rip the headphones off before they can spot me wearing them. And, I don't wear them around town, just on the highway where I'm mostly sitting in the right lane anyhow, except when passing other campers that is, hahaaahahah.
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04-19-2010, 07:01 PM
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I've got one door done. The heat gun is paramount. This stuff is fairly sturdy, but when heat is applied, it softens right up. Instead of butylene, it is made of strange vinyl. The idea is that once it cools to the shape of the door, it is stronger and controls any vibration. It is a good concept. Testing will be after the rest is complete.
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04-19-2010, 10:47 PM
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Doc,
Please tell us the name of the company you are using.
I have some experience with "Sound-Down" on a previous RV insulating the dog house. They are mostly "Boat People" but did a good job coaching me on that project.
Rad
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04-20-2010, 02:49 PM
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The company is CAE. I contacted them for commercial, but they do car, truck, home theater, and boats too.
The driver door is done, and now I have the dash apart. I'm starting to understand how all of these products are supposed to work. Their theory is sound (forgive the pun). It should work well.
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04-22-2010, 06:22 PM
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I've got the acoustic control installed. The first impression is a 12 db drop on the highway. The road noise and wind noise are greatly reduced. The engine noise is still leaking through a few places. I'm looking into fixes for them. Overall I am pleased with results. We no longer need to yell while on the highway.
I tried to post pics, but it didn't take. If I can get the pics up, I will explain what we did.
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04-29-2010, 10:14 AM
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I found a loud spot between the door and the side of the dash. Apparently the door doesn't seal very well. I put weather stripping on the door, but I haven't had time to test yet.
The other thing I found was a hollow body piece of the body that fits between the side of the hood and the door. It seems to catch motor noise and funnel it to the front door jamb (the same place that I put weather stripping). I'm looking into foam bagging that piece of the body.
ideas are welcome.
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04-29-2010, 01:01 PM
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By foam bagging do you mean expansive iceynene spray foam? If it is a hollow cavity, iceynene would work well, G
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04-29-2010, 06:30 PM
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Yes, but you put a plastic bag in the cavity first and spray the foam inside the bag. This way, if you ever have to do any body work, you unbolt the piece and take the foam out. it's kinda flammable and sticky.
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04-30-2010, 05:28 PM
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I test the truck after the weather stripping on the door, and everything came together. I am hovering about 70db on the highway. That is a lot more comfortable than before. Its funny, I turned on the radio and thought it sounded so loud. I can hear it so much better. I had to turn it down.
All in all, I spent about $500 and a little labor. driving to Louisiana next week will be vastly less stressful.
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05-02-2010, 08:39 AM
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Doc
Any chance of more pictures? I would like to know what products you used and where. Also any installation hints on those products.
Thanks in advance.
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05-04-2010, 01:30 PM
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i haven't figured out how to post pics yet. I will figure it out soon.
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05-04-2010, 03:16 PM
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I have a facebook account where I post all the pics. Then you can link to them anywhere else and everybody can view them. If you're not on facebook you're being left behind by this new generation. Plus, I've re-connected with a bunch of olde friends from high school because of facebook.
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05-05-2010, 02:36 PM
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Oh yeah, I check Facebook with my email. It is rather addicting. I'll look into that when I get back from Louisiana.
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05-11-2010, 10:14 AM
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05-11-2010, 10:26 AM
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05-11-2010, 10:36 AM
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05-11-2010, 10:41 AM
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Great pictures. Looks cool. Looks like a lot of work tho. I'd like to do this to my truck, but I'd probably not be able to get things back together.
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