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02-04-2016, 10:26 PM
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water lines and 220
In the near future i am going to install a washer dryer combo, the 24" wide and 70" tall type, i can run the hot and cold out of the bath room to the closet where the unit will be. but it will under the floor outside about 6'. So looks to me they ran the water and the waste between the floors cause i dont see it outside.....
I would rather have the lines safe and warm, any suggestions??
The waste would have to be tapped into just before the drain valve. not the neat job i would like to have or do. looking for help and more suggestions.
Now the electric so whats the best way to do 220 ?
I think i can get 220 out of my gen with no problem.. but how about when hook to shore?
Thanks
Sam
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02-05-2016, 10:03 AM
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Do you have a 50 amp connection? If so, you have:
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- neutral
-- ground
Does your panel have any 240v (220v) breakers or is it all 120v? Do you have extra slots? In either case, (assuming 50 amp service) you have the potential for 240v by installing a breaker that connects to both of your 120 legs.
If you were ever to use a 30 amp adapter you would not have 240v because the adapter connects both sides of your panel to one leg of 120v.
There are a lot of assumptions and maybes in the above... what kind of panel, are 240v breakers even available for your panel, how many amps service, how your generator is wired to your panel, etc. I would talk to an electrician if you're not super confident about it.
Bottom line: 240v is possible if you have a 50 amp service, it is impossible if you have 30 amp service, (assuming standard RV connections)
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02-05-2016, 06:56 PM
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I don't think any rv's ever have 240v. What do you need to power with 240 volt?
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02-05-2016, 06:58 PM
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I think I've seen builders run the water lines along the floor/wall junction. Then they use a piece of wood carpeted placed at about a 45 degree angle over it to cover them. I'll try to get a picture of it on mine next time I'm visiting my storage place.
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02-05-2016, 08:49 PM
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I have 50 amp.
I am going to pull the panel cover and see what the bus bar looks like and put a meter on it and See what i can get.
Thanks for the info and insight.
Sam
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Originally Posted by asitool
Do you have a 50 amp connection? If so, you have:
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- neutral
-- ground
Does your panel have any 240v (220v) breakers or is it all 120v? Do you have extra slots? In either case, (assuming 50 amp service) you have the potential for 240v by installing a breaker that connects to both of your 120 legs.
If you were ever to use a 30 amp adapter you would not have 240v because the adapter connects both sides of your panel to one leg of 120v.
There are a lot of assumptions and maybes in the above... what kind of panel, are 240v breakers even available for your panel, how many amps service, how your generator is wired to your panel, etc. I would talk to an electrician if you're not super confident about it.
Bottom line: 240v is possible if you have a 50 amp service, it is impossible if you have 30 amp service, (assuming standard RV connections)
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02-05-2016, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob86ZZ4
I don't think any rv's ever have 240v. What do you need to power with 240 volt?
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The dryers i have seen are both 110 and 220. i have to run
The wire no matter what voltage, so 220 will dry much better.
Sam
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02-05-2016, 09:05 PM
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Bob my water from the kitchen goes straight into the floor same in the bath, the shower/tub not sure but its on the passager side. i have under the rv a lot, i dont see any water lines waste or other.
Sam
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I think I've seen builders run the water lines along the floor/wall junction. Then they use a piece of wood carpeted placed at about a 45 degree angle over it to cover them. I'll try to get a picture of it on mine next time I'm visiting my storage place.
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02-06-2016, 11:29 AM
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You might want to give Renegade a call and give them your coach floor plan number. They can tell you exactly where the lines run. We have 110v for our washer and dryer and they work well provided we don't overload them too large a load of clothes.
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02-06-2016, 11:37 AM
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Some of my water supply lines appear to run straight down through the floor. But in fact they run through the bottom board of the cabinet and then make an elbow before going through the floor. I think.
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02-08-2016, 09:17 PM
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my waterlines are like bob's (and everyone else) hidden along the wall (but inside the coach).
If theyre running water lines outside you have a (VERY) high risk of freezing them.
Also 50a in a coach are 2 legs of 120vac (50a each).
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02-08-2016, 09:59 PM
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I can tell you for sure they are not exposed.
Sorry about the side way pix.
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Originally Posted by bushpilot
my waterlines are like bob's (and everyone else) hidden along the wall (but inside the coach).
If theyre running water lines outside you have a (VERY) high risk of freezing them.
Also 50a in a coach are 2 legs of 120vac (50a each).
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02-08-2016, 10:10 PM
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damn thats gonna SUCK if you ever have a leak.
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02-08-2016, 10:27 PM
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If i have a leak its going to be your fault.....because your right!
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damn thats gonna SUCK if you ever have a leak.
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02-09-2016, 12:16 AM
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The 50 amp service is two legs of 110v, and they are out of phase so you do have 220 between them like a regular 220v circuit does. But your MH does not use 220v anywhere, it is always just one leg. Not that you are stuck with that, but if you ever are in a 30 amp plug, then you only have 110v. So you will not be able to use the dryer.
Your generator likely does have 220v, it is just not wired in your MH to take advantage of it.
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02-13-2016, 11:20 AM
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Let's see if I can get a picture to work. This is how they covered the water pipes inside my coach.
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02-13-2016, 11:20 AM
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Those are some weird shadows on the carpet. It's not stained, believe me, MrsBob86ZZ4 would never stand for that.
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02-13-2016, 12:28 PM
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Thanks bob for picture, my dutchman had that for water and power.
Sam
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