Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×


Join Truck Conversion Today
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-04-2016, 10:26 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default water lines and 220

In the near future i am going to install a washer dryer combo, the 24" wide and 70" tall type, i can run the hot and cold out of the bath room to the closet where the unit will be. but it will under the floor outside about 6'. So looks to me they ran the water and the waste between the floors cause i dont see it outside.....
I would rather have the lines safe and warm, any suggestions??
The waste would have to be tapped into just before the drain valve. not the neat job i would like to have or do. looking for help and more suggestions.

Now the electric so whats the best way to do 220 ?
I think i can get 220 out of my gen with no problem.. but how about when hook to shore?

Thanks

Sam
__________________

__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 10:03 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 57
Default

Do you have a 50 amp connection? If so, you have:
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- neutral
-- ground

Does your panel have any 240v (220v) breakers or is it all 120v? Do you have extra slots? In either case, (assuming 50 amp service) you have the potential for 240v by installing a breaker that connects to both of your 120 legs.

If you were ever to use a 30 amp adapter you would not have 240v because the adapter connects both sides of your panel to one leg of 120v.

There are a lot of assumptions and maybes in the above... what kind of panel, are 240v breakers even available for your panel, how many amps service, how your generator is wired to your panel, etc. I would talk to an electrician if you're not super confident about it.

Bottom line: 240v is possible if you have a 50 amp service, it is impossible if you have 30 amp service, (assuming standard RV connections)
__________________

asitool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 06:56 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Bob86ZZ4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,819
Default

I don't think any rv's ever have 240v. What do you need to power with 240 volt?
__________________
'03 Freightliner FL112, 295" wheel base, with '03 United Specialties 26' living quarters, single screw, Cat C12 430 h/p 1650 torque, Eaton 10speed , 3.42 rear axle ratio
Bob86ZZ4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 06:58 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Bob86ZZ4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,819
Default

I think I've seen builders run the water lines along the floor/wall junction. Then they use a piece of wood carpeted placed at about a 45 degree angle over it to cover them. I'll try to get a picture of it on mine next time I'm visiting my storage place.
__________________
'03 Freightliner FL112, 295" wheel base, with '03 United Specialties 26' living quarters, single screw, Cat C12 430 h/p 1650 torque, Eaton 10speed , 3.42 rear axle ratio
Bob86ZZ4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 08:49 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default

I have 50 amp.
I am going to pull the panel cover and see what the bus bar looks like and put a meter on it and See what i can get.

Thanks for the info and insight.

Sam







Quote:
Originally Posted by asitool View Post
Do you have a 50 amp connection? If so, you have:
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- 120v hot (50 amp)
-- neutral
-- ground

Does your panel have any 240v (220v) breakers or is it all 120v? Do you have extra slots? In either case, (assuming 50 amp service) you have the potential for 240v by installing a breaker that connects to both of your 120 legs.

If you were ever to use a 30 amp adapter you would not have 240v because the adapter connects both sides of your panel to one leg of 120v.

There are a lot of assumptions and maybes in the above... what kind of panel, are 240v breakers even available for your panel, how many amps service, how your generator is wired to your panel, etc. I would talk to an electrician if you're not super confident about it.

Bottom line: 240v is possible if you have a 50 amp service, it is impossible if you have 30 amp service, (assuming standard RV connections)
__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 08:52 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob86ZZ4 View Post
I don't think any rv's ever have 240v. What do you need to power with 240 volt?
The dryers i have seen are both 110 and 220. i have to run
The wire no matter what voltage, so 220 will dry much better.

Sam
__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2016, 09:05 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default

Bob my water from the kitchen goes straight into the floor same in the bath, the shower/tub not sure but its on the passager side. i have under the rv a lot, i dont see any water lines waste or other.


Sam

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob86ZZ4 View Post
I think I've seen builders run the water lines along the floor/wall junction. Then they use a piece of wood carpeted placed at about a 45 degree angle over it to cover them. I'll try to get a picture of it on mine next time I'm visiting my storage place.
__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 11:29 AM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Tucson
Posts: 21
Default

You might want to give Renegade a call and give them your coach floor plan number. They can tell you exactly where the lines run. We have 110v for our washer and dryer and they work well provided we don't overload them too large a load of clothes.
__________________
2016 Renegade Verona VBH, Freightliner M2-106, ISL 8.9, Allison 3200. 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee
tgdameron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 11:37 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Bob86ZZ4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,819
Default

Some of my water supply lines appear to run straight down through the floor. But in fact they run through the bottom board of the cabinet and then make an elbow before going through the floor. I think.
__________________
'03 Freightliner FL112, 295" wheel base, with '03 United Specialties 26' living quarters, single screw, Cat C12 430 h/p 1650 torque, Eaton 10speed , 3.42 rear axle ratio
Bob86ZZ4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 09:17 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
bushpilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tomball
Posts: 1,414
Default

my waterlines are like bob's (and everyone else) hidden along the wall (but inside the coach).

If theyre running water lines outside you have a (VERY) high risk of freezing them.

Also 50a in a coach are 2 legs of 120vac (50a each).
__________________
Don R.
'04 Haulmark (M42386) 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures
'04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over
bushpilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 09:59 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default

I can tell you for sure they are not exposed.

Sorry about the side way pix.



Quote:
Originally Posted by bushpilot View Post
my waterlines are like bob's (and everyone else) hidden along the wall (but inside the coach).

If theyre running water lines outside you have a (VERY) high risk of freezing them.

Also 50a in a coach are 2 legs of 120vac (50a each).
Attached Thumbnails
tmp_16987-IMG_4485730911399.jpg  
__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 10:10 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
bushpilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tomball
Posts: 1,414
Default

damn thats gonna SUCK if you ever have a leak.
__________________
Don R.
'04 Haulmark (M42386) 42', 2 slide, 10kw - Pictures
'04 F350 CrewCab Longbed 4x4, 50g aux tank & gear vendors dbl over
bushpilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2016, 10:27 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default

If i have a leak its going to be your fault.....because your right!

Quote:
Originally Posted by bushpilot View Post
damn thats gonna SUCK if you ever have a leak.
__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2016, 12:16 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 146
Default

The 50 amp service is two legs of 110v, and they are out of phase so you do have 220 between them like a regular 220v circuit does. But your MH does not use 220v anywhere, it is always just one leg. Not that you are stuck with that, but if you ever are in a 30 amp plug, then you only have 110v. So you will not be able to use the dryer.

Your generator likely does have 220v, it is just not wired in your MH to take advantage of it.
__________________
2005 Kenworth Showhauler 45 ft total length
twin screw, 450 hp ISX, 10 speed Ultrashift
38Chevy454 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2016, 11:20 AM   #15
Senior Member
 
Bob86ZZ4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,819
Default

Let's see if I can get a picture to work. This is how they covered the water pipes inside my coach.
Attached Thumbnails
2016-02-10 11.31.07.jpg  
__________________
'03 Freightliner FL112, 295" wheel base, with '03 United Specialties 26' living quarters, single screw, Cat C12 430 h/p 1650 torque, Eaton 10speed , 3.42 rear axle ratio
Bob86ZZ4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2016, 11:20 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Bob86ZZ4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 1,819
Default

Those are some weird shadows on the carpet. It's not stained, believe me, MrsBob86ZZ4 would never stand for that.
__________________
'03 Freightliner FL112, 295" wheel base, with '03 United Specialties 26' living quarters, single screw, Cat C12 430 h/p 1650 torque, Eaton 10speed , 3.42 rear axle ratio
Bob86ZZ4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2016, 12:28 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
samcrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Tullahoma
Posts: 361
Default

Thanks bob for picture, my dutchman had that for water and power.

Sam
__________________

__________________
2005 Renegade #1204 42 footer Columbia M3200CH-435,12 speed auto Cat 12 kw Genset, Roadtrip Mission in-mot Dish Network, Washer dryer combo, Jeep Liberty toad,1973 Cessna Skylane,1955 Chev 210 Belair survivor
samcrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×