thanks guys-- it's really great having friends here--- i drove alie's mini to va around the 15th of dec and came back the night of the 27th-- it trulley was the night to travel-- came from madison to ellijay in 'bout 7 1/2 hours--- we're going to try to go to alaska around the middle of april-- anybody interested?---oh the rate of travel will not be nearly as quick--- mase